tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28278152.post2446028091853647907..comments2023-09-24T08:22:14.199+01:00Comments on Joseph Shaw's Philosophy Blog: The ethical problems of non-directive counsellingUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28278152.post-28953023126654378022022-02-03T11:40:37.266+00:002022-02-03T11:40:37.266+00:00Marriage and Family Therapists are highly trained,...Marriage and Family Therapists are highly trained, licensed practitioners specializing in interpersonal interactions, family dynamics, and psychotherapy. These specialists are trained to identify and treat a wide variety of emotional and psychological issues in relationships. <a href="https://www.lifesuccesscounseling.com/" rel="nofollow">Relationship counseling</a>Teresahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08698975273446567163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28278152.post-47826659026202674052012-02-02T19:59:10.580+00:002012-02-02T19:59:10.580+00:00This is my personal opinion.LIFE is not an accredi...This is my personal opinion.LIFE is not an accredited member of the BACP, but an organisational member meaning that it adheres to BACP's ethical guidelines. LIFE is precisely called LIFE because it recognises the value of ALL life - babies lives, women's lives, men's lives. To have a, 'more neutral' name would lose this important meaning, and for any counsellor to start a session 'softly softly' and then to move on to their own agenda would be entirely unethical. No LIFE volunteer shies away from informing clients of the details of abortion when asked or indeed exploring ALL the options, including adoption,but they do not seek to traumatise them by offering unsolicited information. LIFE has a clear policy of telling clients that as a pro-life organisation they cannot refer them for an abortion.<br />I agree that it can be difficult to substantiate the claim that NDC works, however, I can assure you that with this approach clients come back more frequently and thus explore more fully the option of keeping their baby more fully. This is because however long ago it was that Roger's developed client centred counselling the fact is that he was right about the depth of the relationship that can be achieved through being non-judgemental and empathetic. Too true that many people today come from a 'values free background', many of them don't value themselves or believe in their ability to make a choice for their own and their baby's welfare against negative societal pressure. This is why is is essential that counsellors and skilled listeners within LIFE show compassion and believe that through valuing the autonomy of the client they may learn to value themselves and gain the strength to make a compassionate choice.Nickinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28278152.post-5781544914704098562012-01-16T22:17:14.586+00:002012-01-16T22:17:14.586+00:00also, its not 'not caring which way a woman ch...also, its not 'not caring which way a woman choses' but 'caring that she choses what is right for her' (which may not be the same as your own personal choice )disappointednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28278152.post-5388045890267145252011-08-05T17:55:44.599+01:002011-08-05T17:55:44.599+01:00That's awe-full for people ending up the LIFE ...That's awe-full for people ending up the LIFE with own. that is the matter of fact that client is special and one counsellor should use Non-Directive method in case of the client's mental condition. That way is some psychological and should be handled with care.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.wingoodtherapy.com" rel="nofollow">marriage counseling Orange County</a>anderapadokernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28278152.post-77764692717761410142011-07-20T18:11:39.393+01:002011-07-20T18:11:39.393+01:00RLC wrote "3)"Non directive" does n...RLC wrote "3)"Non directive" does not mean acting as if we do not care which way a woman chooses." <br /><br />I think that this is wrong. Certainly, when I was trained in non-directive counselling, by a counselling organisation, it meant precisely 'acting as if we did not care which way [a client] chooses.' In fact, so explicit was this that we were also taught that in the case of somebody threatening to commit suicide, we were to abandon our non-directive approach, because somebody's life was at stake...Ben Trovatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15299230935468606845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28278152.post-59356157971596737312011-07-20T14:38:54.611+01:002011-07-20T14:38:54.611+01:00I've had a look on the internet for a neat def...I've had a look on the internet for a neat definition of NDC and have had limited success. LIFE uses accreditation from BACP and this, from the <a href="http://www.karengrant.bacp.co.uk/aboutT.html" rel="nofollow">latter's website</a>, is quite helpful:<br /><br />Quote<br />BACP Research has suggested that, although there are several hundred different theoretical approaches to psychotherapy and counselling, it is the therapeutic relationship which is paramount in enabling clients to feel safe enough to explore, in depth, their personal issues. Carl Rogers (Person-Centred Approach) suggested, all that is necessary and sufficient, when a client is feeling vulnerable or anxious and is able to be in psychological contact with the therapist and the therapist offers understanding (empathy), warmth and unconditional acceptance (unconditional positive regard) in a genuine authentic manner (congruence) and if the client is able to accept these ‘core conditions’ from the therapist, therapeutic change is able will take place. This ‘Person-Centred Approach’ is generally ‘non-directive’ and the therapist follows the client at their own pace and time.<br /><br />However, in these ever-changing times, sometimes clients require help, advice and techniques in order to resolve their issues more quickly.<br /><br />Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) can offer such techniques and its large evidence-based studies suggest that it is possible to change and recondition our thoughts and behaviours to overcome specific problems. By understanding our thought processes and perceptions and the way these affect our feelings, thoughts and behaviours, CBT can be useful in dealing with many personal issues especially with regard to anxiety, depression and phobias.<br /><br />End quote.<br />In other words, giving 'help, advice and techniques' disqualifies an approach from being 'non-directive'. The writer is not trying to squeeze every sensible approach to counselling under the NDC label.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28278152.post-14753985784167470612011-07-20T13:54:08.899+01:002011-07-20T13:54:08.899+01:00Remember that this has been a developing issue. LI...Remember that this has been a developing issue. LIFE has been imposing NDC on its counsellors over a period of time. What you did may not be NDC in the strict sense.<br /><br />It is an interesting point that even the Samaritans aren't indifferent to the fate of people considering suicide (otherwise they wouldn't be there). But to point out that NDC is incoherent is hardly a way to defend it.<br /><br />And let's not pretend the only alternative to NDC is 'hectoring'. The alternative is to do what LIFE always did up until recently, and what other pro-life charities do.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28278152.post-8690876205217210422011-07-20T11:34:42.751+01:002011-07-20T11:34:42.751+01:001)Every LIFE counsellor has experience of women wh...1)Every LIFE counsellor has experience of women who come wanting an abortion or undecided, and who leave determined to keep the baby.Sometimes but not of course always we know for certain that they do so.<br />2)In fact women surprisingly often do not know we are a pro-life group; training includes responding to a request for help in getting an abortion.<br />3)"Non directive" does not mean acting as if we do not care which way a woman chooses. It means not hectoring or bullying in any way, not ranting about the wickedness of abortion. If that worked, we'd be tempted to do it, but it does not.<br />In one sense it is impossible not to let one's values affect<br />counselling: the Samaritans just listen, but they do it because they<br />believe clients are better off alive and knowing someone cares. It<br />means not imposing one's views. It does not mean hiding the truth of the physical and mental damage to women, or the facts about the baby's growth, or what help is available,where appropriate.<br />4)Yes, Carl Rogers is very dodgy, but I'm interested that his<br />techniques worked with students who basically wanted to behave well.<br />LIFE counsellors know that most women have a strong instinct to<br />protect their children however much this may be overlaid by other<br />wants or practical problems.retired LIFE counsellornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28278152.post-54320827060757174862011-07-19T10:32:49.469+01:002011-07-19T10:32:49.469+01:00Listening to the sound of tumbleweed, it would see...Listening to the sound of tumbleweed, it would seem not. It seems amongst Catholics at any rate, those who know it's wrong know it's wrong - and those who don't seem to know it's not wrong!! Loggerheads.Multum Incolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04817574956365161041noreply@blogger.com